Tuesday Night Tournament Creel Limit

[bassboogieman]

Eli, that was an obscure reference to the "new" Federal (Obama administration) regulations regarding tidal waters this year.  ::)
Did that one go over your head?  ;D
Micro management of our waters.................. was supposed to be sarcastically funny.  
At least I thought it was.

[Eli]

Eli, that was an obscure reference to the "new" Federal (Obama administration) regulations regarding tidal waters this year.  ::)
Did that one go over your head?  ;D
Micro management of our waters.................. was supposed to be sarcastically funny.  
At least I thought it was.

From the boy who cried Obama  ;D

[bassboogieman]

Some interesting comments on this topic.  ::) Although I must admit, these guys all run $30K (or better) bass boats.  ;D  What I did find interesting, several comments from both side of the fence regarding - Pillager's suggestion to run the pumps constantly keeping up a steady inflow of water, and mine that leans towards a "closed" system.  By no means the FINAL answer, but every one has an opinion and a processs.  Some work better than others, so you be the judge.
http://www.bbcboards.net/zerothread?id=575039

[Pillager]

Let me draw a parallel universe for you:

You're sitting in a room full of your favorite fishing buddies while away on a trip trading fish stories, because we all know when you talk about catching fish it's a story.   ;D  The doors to the room are closed and the windows are closed.  The window in the bathroom connected to your sitting room is stuck shut, the fan doesn't work, and no one remembered the Lysol spray.  You all ate beans for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Would you like it if no one opened the windows and doors to get some fresh air in?

[bassboogieman]

Sorry, I don't (can't) comprehend a "parallel universe".  I live in my own universe, oblivious to any other. ;D ;D ;D

That depends - is it next to a landfill?? How about a sewage treatment plant.  An Amish farm where they just spread chicken crap on the fields?  Or WORSE YET - maybe there's a bakery next door.  If I was prepared knowing the parameters of the bull session, I would have brought along my own oxygen tank, some ice, and maybe a battery operated fan.  ::)  How and why do you think aquariums work?

[Pillager]

Aquariums don't have nearly the occupancy rate as your live well with 3 big fish in it.  OK, maybe not your live well, but the live wells of the winners.

And you have to change some of the aquarium water periodically.  And you have carbon filters in an aquarium and possibly also filters for ammonia build up.  Otherwise those fish are going to die pretty quickly even though they have much more water per ounce of body weight than even the one teenie weenie bass in your live well.

[Pillager]

By the way, that fish is short, so you're disqualified.   ;D

[bassboogieman]

Dave, you're pizzin' into the wind.  Aquariums need "periodic" water changes - true, but  it's about 10% per MONTH, vs. 3 (ok I'll give you 3 1/2) hours and you can certainly (actually should) change water in the live wells "periodically".  I've lost power and the aquariums have set for 6 hours or more with NOTHING running - I didn't lose any fish.  Charcoal filters - true, but we are taking about maintaining a "closed" system for MONTHS, not hours.  Chemicals - yep I use them in the aquariums and (sometimes) the livewells - I think it's necessary.  Three "big fish" (I think the "record is 13 lbs?) can certainly survive in the livewells of most boats for 3 hours if you take unextraordianry precautions.  Dual livewells - put 2 in one and the "lunker" in the other and NO problems.  Single livewells are usuall 30 gal plus - again should not be a problem.  Stick them in a 48 quart cooler - well a cooler is good for keeping FOOD  ::) until ready for the grill.  
Come visit my universe for a moment.  With warm water temps,  constantly running lake water in the livewell does little - except flush fish waste (ammonia).  Warm water holds less oxygen than cool water - ICE allows the livewell water to hold a little more oxygen (+ 1).  Keeping livewell temps within 5 - 7 degress of the lake will not shock them when you dump them in the well, but will increase the oxygen holding content of the water and, as the fish are cold blooded, also reduce their body temp and reduce their stress.   Chemical additives (even hydrogen perioxide), Oxygenators or other aeriation systems introduce additional oxygen to the system.  In the case of chemical additives, stress releivers also help the fish (+ 2).  Recirculation keeps the water moving, and I believe this further reduces the stress on fish and aeration, while similiar to adding new water it's not bringing in warm water or low oxygen water (+ 3).  Now it times to change a little water and remove some of the amonia from the well (+ 4) but you will need some additional ice to keep the temps in the livewell stable.  None of the above is rocket science, or expensive - with the possible exception of the Oxygenators.  Again, this may not be 100% for warm tournament days, with bigger limits, i.e. more weight, for longer periods of time, with little fish mortality (at the scales, anyway), but at least equal to or better than introducing a constant flow of water through the wells.  

[Pillager]

I think you should publish your study and refute some of the other studies out there.

[bassboogieman]

I'm not looking to refute any "studies"  ::) only YOU. ;D
This has been a debate - you know I like them, and could go on FOREVER  ::) but I won't

I'm sure multiple "studies" will arrive at various conclusions . . . . .  I'm just waiting for PETA to chime in.
;D ;D ;D  Y'know, they could provide us with the bass' perspective. ::)

[bassboogieman]

Is YOUR livewell smoke free?