The new world record may come from overseas . . .
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/bass ... n_20090702
I don't think the preceding link works, try this one . . .
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/bassmaster/news/story?page=b_BigBass_record_Japan_20090702
i dont like this. Japan? In my mind, bass fishing is as american as it gets. i hate to see a guy from japan break this record :undecided:
I bet they are robot fish...
Domo Oregato Mr. Fishboto
Quote from: bfitch on July 03, 2009, 12:40:35 PM
i dont like this. Japan? In my mind, bass fishing is as american as it gets. i hate to see a guy from japan break this record :undecided:
Oh come on. Fishing is not "american". Fishing has been around in many forms for many centuries. Maybe we made the sport of bass fishing be what it is, but please...
It's quite ironic though that this might be a tie for the world record just as Japan is trying to rid it's waters of "invasive species" such as black bass. The record is tied, and they eliminate bass from their waters forever.
Just think if the guy would have forgone the Sushi shore lunch - the record would have fallen. :rolleyes:
World Record fish are just that WORLD, so where ever a species breaking a World Record is caught is of little consequence. Just because the "WORLD" SERIES isn't really a WORLD SERIES, fishing World Records really are. Generally, Americans have taken the term WORLD to mean the USA which is really inconsiderate, don't ya think? :undecided:
Americans, inconsiderate of the rest of the world? I don't know what you mean.
Actually, Cuba is another place they thought the record might fall. There are some big bass lakes there, and they don't get much fishing pressure, mostly because US citizens are still prohibited from travelling there. If that ever opens up, I think there will be more trips there than to Mexico, especially with the dangerous state of things there right now.
Quote from: bassboogieman on July 06, 2009, 10:00:17 AM
World Record fish are just that WORLD, so where ever a species breaking a World Record is caught is of little consequence.
exactly, its a world wide thing. thats where your sense of american pride is supposed to kick in and make you want your country to be on top. thats like saying it doenst matter who wins the olympics, just as long as they play the game.
Quote from: Pillager on July 06, 2009, 10:02:59 AM
Actually, Cuba is another place they thought the record might fall. There are some big bass lakes there, and they don't get much fishing pressure, mostly because US citizens are still prohibited from travelling there. If that ever opens up, I think there will be more trips there than to Mexico, especially with the dangerous state of things there right now.
And lets not forget the benefit of getting legal cuban cigars. That would be great too!
It really doesn't matter in the Olympics anymore Brian. Since the playing field hasn't been level for such a long time. Actually hasn't been untainted by POLITICS since 1936. This County tried (admiralbly) for decades sending "amateur" athletes to compete against what were essentially professionals from other Countries and finally giving up and joined sending the Pro's to do battle on behalf of this Country. In order to keep it near the top (especially in AMERICAN sports - LIKE BASKETBALL) and not be a continual contender for the bottom of the heap which would have been an unbearable embarrassment. The Olympics isn't about sports, it's political. Remember 1972? Probably not, you weren't born yet. 1980? 1984? All were overshadowed by Politics, at the expense of "sport", so it's evident which is the important factor when it comes to the Olympics.
Ryan - I'll be in Canada in a few weeks, Cubans are OVER THE COUNTER up there. I will honestly say as one who enjoys a good cigar, that Cubans are a bit overrated for the most part. I have both Cuban and Dominican Cohiba's for example and there is little difference in the taste, burn, or consistancy between the two. Top shelf Dominican's are every bit as good as Cuban, I think. and are not a hassle to get. Actually several of the Dominican producer's also have Cuban facilities so you're pretty much getting the same cigar - another reason I don't agree with the ban against the Cuban cigars.
Well the olympics is a whole other topic entirely, but if you think about it in the purest sense of the spirit of the contest, the best athletes SHOULD be representing the various countries. Not sure where the pro/amateur debate crept in there, but in ancient Greece, I doubt they worried about the runners who were employed by the army vs. the ones that weren't. In fact, weren't some of the athletes full time "performers"? If they were, then they were as professional as one could be in those days.
Quote from: bassboogieman on July 06, 2009, 11:08:26 AM
It really doesn't matter in the Olympics anymore Brian. Since the playing field hasn't been level for such a long time. Actually hasn't been untainted by POLITICS since 1939. This County tried (admiralbly) for decades sending "amateur" athletes to compete against what were essentially professionals from other Countries and finally giving up and joined sending the Pro's to do battle on behalf of this Country. In order to keep it near the top (especially in AMERICAN sports - LIKE BASKETBALL) and not be a continual contender for the bottom of the heap which would have been an unbearable embarrassment. The Olympics isn't about sports, it's political. Remember 1972? Probably not, you weren't born yet. 1980? 1984? All were overshadowed by Politics, at the expense of "sport", so it's evident which is the important factor when it comes to the Olympics..
i was born in '87, but are trying to say the miracle on ice was overshadowed by politics? cause im pretty sure more people could tell ya who won the game, as apposed to who the leader of the USSR was at that time
oh, the miracle on ice was a huge thing, not overshadowed by politics. I think what I'm saying is, we may have won a lot more ice hockey titles if we had our pros playing all those years.
Leonid Brezhnev
Oh Pill-a-ger.................... the ancient Greeks also competed in the nude - no TV coverage. :rolleyes:
Politics yes Brian. I know who the Soviet Premier (Brezniev, probably can't spell it though) was, but can't tell you one name from the hockey team, and I actually watched the game. The same importance or relevance isn't attached to an event by everyone. And your reference to the "MIRACLE" ON ICE implies Divine Intervention - another thing I don't believe in. Now don't get your panties in a bunch - I'm busting your stones on that one.
The Olympics themselves are interesting in that the very best in sport (see Pillager, I can buy in to your premise) is showcased. Regardless of which Country is represented by an athlete, the individual performances should be appreciated for what they are, and not from which Country that athlete represents. From the Africian runners, the Eastern European gymnasts (both sexes), Soviet weightlifters, Chineese divers, to the American swimmers - they're all equally impressive. It's the person(s) on the podium that was(were) successful in his(their) pursuit of excellence, not the Country who's flag is going up the pole. But the flags are important only due to Political influence.
Most interesting thread on the site in MONTHS. About time a little "discussion" was stirred up. :evil:
individual performances are great, boogs. but to say that the country's flag is only there for politics aint right. sure i love to see the eastern eurpoean gymnasts ( :evil: ) but i root for the USA gymnasts. why? because i live in the USA, the USA is my "team" in the olympics. its the same thing for all sports. you have a team you root for. yea tom brady had a hell of a year 2 years ago when he threw all them TDs. But that doesnt mean i like the guy as a football player. i dont wake up on the first sunday in september and say to my self " who looks like a team that will do good this year, so i can root for them?" im and Eagles fan, im a Phillies fan, im a Flyers fan, im a ( kinda :grin: ) sixers fan, and im a USA team fan.
Brian, you're spot on in your reasoning for rooting for USA athletes at the olympics. And you also mention you can appreciate the performances of other athletes. But the fact remains, there is a lot of politics in sports, at ALL levels mind you, not just the olympic level. If you don't believe that, you're just kidding yourself. Hitler tried to use the Olympics to "prove" the superiority of the Germans. And that is probably just the most obvious. The Russians boycotted olympics in the US. The US boycotted olympics in Russia. There have been at least 5 olympic games that have been boycotted by one or more countries.